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#1386228 by Timothy from Glen Hope
Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:59 pm
Hi all, wow this is hard, especially for me. I have to force myself to do the work. To make a long story short, it all started 10 years ago. I fell in love with SBI and thought, how about a website to sell SBI? I call it Best Website Tools. Well, origianlly I just offered SBI. But Ken Evoy pointed out that one should not do that, it won't last. So I expanded and now offer lots of different tools.

The problem is I offered other people's stuff right along with my own. Some stuff was time sensitive other stuff I purchased and rebranded as my own, Even more stuff was or rather is now just plain out of date. A lot of stuff now is just gone.

When Google's animals got out my site got trampled. But I didn't worry about it. My other sites were doing well and recovered from Google Panda and Penguin very nicely. Consequently I let BWT stagnate. It was moving along pretty well without any attention. No worries, that was in 2013. By 2017 I had lost 80% of my traffic and hadn't made any sales.

I decided early this year that I would refurbish the site on a part time basis. I did a template update and began cleaining the place up. And the site started coming back. Then disaster struck. The power went out while the hard drive on my computer was spinning. It (the hard drive) took a hit in a sector that controlled the operating system. I tried real hard to save everything but it died on the table. Fortunately for me (and all the rest of us) SBI allows you to download anything from their servers pertaining to your site that is. That means I can recover the site from the SBI servers.

But recovering a site is a lot harder for me because I am an UYOHer. All my content originates offline and is then uploaded to SBI. When I lost my computer I lost years worth of content. So now to fix a page I need to download it from SBI apply the fixes then reupload it. I have 341 pages.

What does this have to do with https, you might wonder. The HTTPS Checker is the perfect tool for recovering the site. I started with 47 pages of errors in my site. After I weeded out the easy stuff I got that down to 8 pages of errors to deal with. While looking through the list I notice it contains all the bad stuff that Google's animals chewed up. So the https checker has bonus value for me. It is finding all the stuff I neglected to fix over the years.

For me the plan is continue to refurbish Best Website Tools and go secure by the end of the year. In the end I expect to have a shiny new, very clean, secure website (even though it will be 11y/o). I am going page by page now and working through the list. No more easy stuff to fix just hard to find stuff. The https checker is doing that for me. Thank you SBI for helping me even though I didn't know I needed to do all this.

Meanwhile I am front-burnering this project until finished. It's like cleaning out your grandfather's attic. You know there are a few treasurs in there but they are lost in all the junk. I'm cleaning out the junk and polishing the treasure.

Never again will I sponsor other peoples stuff unless I can purchase and rebrand it. That means I'll sponsor just a few tools. My problem was I over-stuffed the attic. My site got to be 'grandfather's attic.'

So for me https = How To reTool a Poor webSite.

Tim
#1386233 by Gerhild from Just like Oma
Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:24 pm
Thanks, Paul.

All's good now. Support ran the site through the checker and found one link of code that was in the head section that was http. An old code I had put there years ago to run an audio file. Removed it.

The site here-and-gone-again situation righted itself. No idea what that was. However, since it happened during the conversion process time, made it suspicious. But, the site is now up and running and the traffic hasn't been impacted.

I ran the link checker ... always good to be reminded to do that. All's good there as well.

Thanks to Support for their help in all this ... and to everyone here on the forums.
#1386268 by Mary from Mico
Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:23 am
Tim - I am so glad to read of your persistence in the face of these huge issues. I would have cried if it had been my hard drive that crashed. I'm cheering for you!

Gerhild - That is so great that Support was able to find what you needed. They are so good at that and they make it look so easy, I often marvel. I'm encouraged by your update and continued good traffic.

Mary
#1386353 by Gerhild from Just like Oma
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:16 pm
Want to give another shout-out to Support.

Yesterday, I finally jumped in to convert my large site. I was waiting for my 'high season' to be over, but after I had a couple of emails telling me that links to my site from my newsletter were giving that dreaded "malicious" message, I decided to go ahead.

As well, since I have Ezoic on the site, I was also concerned. However, Clayton from Support, gave me the step-by-step procedure. Ezoic support was right there as well. All it took was 2.5 hours and I had the site done, including all the post-conversion work.

So, both sites are done. Secure. Traffic unaffected. :)

Thanks SBI Support!
#1386374 by Karen from Tombstone AZ
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:38 pm
Hi All - Just wanted to place my 2-cents. Did my conversion. My site is not that big yet. I've only started working on Day 10. But all went smoothly. Thanks SBI for great support & step-by-step instruct.

I just am assuming now, that when we build a new page - any outside pages/links we use also have to be https - correct?

I'm asking because I just yesterday built another page, and there was a page/link I wanted to place. But it wasn't secure. It was a good one, but I had to search for another.

Even many authentic, credible, educational, government-type pages/sites are not yet secure! It seems for the time being it will be more difficult to find that outside link to use for a page.

Thanks for any input/replies.

It's great to be an SBIer!

Karen

Please see the purple reply in this post: https://forums.sitesell.com/viewtopic.php?f=136&t=224028&start=120#p1384254 Thanks. Debs from SiteSell
#1386387 by Mary from Mico
Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:54 pm
Thank you for posting Debs.

Hm.... I ran BLC the other day and it did catch two broken links (out).

I've put it on my task bar to try running this this evening.

Mary
#1386391 by Debs from SiteSell
Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:12 pm
Yes, outbounds it may catch, but it is the internals you need to check too. If your site is https; I've been told by Jon the brokenlinkcheck won't catch those. Hopefully they will upgrade their tool, it is a neat tool ;)

Also, I was informed by H.E. that Mac users can download Integrity for free, it is also a broken link check tool that will catch https.

All my best,

Debs
#1386414 by Mary from Mico
Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:38 am
Hi Debs,

I ran Saint Anne's home page through the validator and wonder at all the code that is returned. Woa!

I think I'd need a walk-through. Do you think that by putting in the .com that it would catch all the internal links? Or would I have to enter each page?

The main thing I saw was a recommendation to make the 301 link a real link. I may have to go back to it.

Thank you H. E. for the Mac note; I use Windows.

Thank you so much.

Mary
#1386418 by Sydney from York Haven
Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:53 am
I switched and the SBI instructions were great thanks!

Upgraded to pro version of Https checker as I have so many pages with C2.

All went fine except it found 400+ pages with Amazon product images that are insecure. Simply adding "s" to the link doesn't work. When I click through those links the Amazon page for the product is https. Do I need to get new code to replace all of those? A bit confused (and overwhelmed - though thankfully have a great VA!)

Did you add the 's' to the link or to the image call part only, or both? Could you please post the URL to one of the pages with the problem so we can see the coding? Debs from SiteSell
#1386429 by Carl from Newton
Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:48 pm
This one is for the developers:

I did the upgrade yesterday and everything went fine. No problems. Green checkmark and all is good.

Today I created a C2.0 page. On the DONE page the link that shows to the new page is http:// not https://.

Yes, it forwards but shouldn't the new created page be an https:// page?
#1386433 by Jeff from dogquotations.com
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:06 pm
Carl, all URLs to other parts of your site are http. The system converts them on the fly when a bot or a human visits the page.
#1386451 by Debs from SiteSell
Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:46 pm
Mary from Mico wrote:Hi Debs,

I ran Saint Anne's home page through the validator and wonder at all the code that is returned. Woa!

I think I'd need a walk-through. Do you think that by putting in the .com that it would catch all the internal links? Or would I have to enter each page?

The main thing I saw was a recommendation to make the 301 link a real link. I may have to go back to it.

Thank you H. E. for the Mac note; I use Windows.

Thank you so much.

Mary


Hi Mary, I agree it is a bit more complex than what we are used to. I asked Jon about it, this is what he recommended:

It requires experimentation and basic research, putting a result into google can clarify terms and common issues. Or, ignore the complex stuff and pick low hanging fruit such as obvious broken links.



If anyone uses a broken link checker that does work on https pages, please post.

Thanks.

Debs
#1386477 by Lois from Flowers Cove
Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:14 pm
Hi Debs

I used to run all my sites through the Broken Link Checker every month, and usually had none or one broken link.

I moved all my sites to HTTPS about 5 weeks ago ... all looks well ... traffic normal ... same number of pages indexed by google as the HTTP version of my sites, etc. (THANKS SBI!)

I thought I could start to finally build a few new pages ... it's been sooo long ;)

But, I thought I had better run my sites through a link checker, so I just did through http://validator.w3.org/checklink

I ran it for my Rhubarb Site.

The results look like I have my work cut out for me :shock: ... but I have no idea what to even do.

I'm not sure where to start ... or if these are really "issues" at all.

I have attached page snipits of my report. (ugh ... no the files are too large) If I can send them to you via an email Debs I could do that.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Regards,
Lois

Open a new thread in the Infin It!/3rd Party Resources forum. Paste your results into the post, you can't attach files or overly large images to the forums. That way all can contribute. Debs from SiteSell
#1386482 by Will from Los Ojos
Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:44 am
Debs from SiteSell wrote:
If anyone uses a broken link checker that does work on https pages, please post.

Thanks.

Debs


I think that http://www.brokenlinkcheck.com probably does work on both http and https sites. I'm not sure there's a need to switch to another link checker if all you want to do is check pages.

Being a pretty thorough sort of person, I'm not going to say something like that without making sure first. I set up a test page on my own https site, with one broken internal link, and one broken external link. You can see it here.
[Domain Private]

You can run my https site, [Domain Private] and test how it works for yourself. My site is only 18 pages so it's very quick to give you the result.

http://www.brokenlinkcheck.com finds both the internal and external broken page links.

The w3 link checker is good, but a lot more complex to interpret. It will find broken links to images for example, which the other one doesn't.

On the front page, the brokenlinkcheck.com version says
" links to documents (PDF, DOC, XLS, PPT etc) and images are not going to be checked". So the w3 checker is much more thorough.

Will
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