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#1381580 by Jacki from Macleod
Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:00 am
Mary from Mico wrote:I think that HE might have mentioned something similar,
I may have missed that, not realizing the importance (or relevance) of it.
#1381605 by Dan from Saint Albans Bay
Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:31 pm
Jacki from Macleod wrote:This was what support told me;

They will be free certificates automatically renewed like
domains (if the site is active when it comes due).

Thank you, Jackie!

#1381945 by CT from Jeniang
Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:45 am
1. Would the SSL certificate be for our base SBI domain, like, rather than be specific to

2. We have an Infin It subdomain hosted at a outside server (with a different IP). Does it need
i) to use the SBI-issued certificate for, or
ii) to get its own certificate for the alias name, like, or
ii) to get its own certificate for its native domain name, like (i.e. the domain name registered at the hosting provider).

Sorry I'm not savvy about SSL, etc, so some of my terms above may not be exact, but I hope the example domain names help to clarify my questions. Thanks for the great work.
#1381987 by Jeff from
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:00 pm
Hi CT. You'll need a cert from the other host for the subdomain (what you called the alias name, which it isn't -- it's a subdomain).
#1382070 by Kai from Fall Branch
Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:58 pm

Yesterday I clicked the The HTTPS Resources Check link and asked to have my site checked. I got the message that the report was running and I'd be getting an email when it was completed.

Never got an email.

Just checking here to see if this is happening to anyone else? I know that there are probably tons of folks running the report right now, so maybe the system is slowed wayyyy down? But it seems like it would have completed by now.

Or have any of you gotten your reports?

#1382079 by Jeff from
Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:53 pm
Kai, head back to Site Central, click on the link again, and see if there's anything there for you. If there is, you may want to check the email address on file for you by clicking on the My Account link in the top right of Site Central.
#1382084 by Mary from Mico
Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:21 pm

I received my emails and list quickly, too - except for my second site. That took a few hours or might have been overnight about 14 hours.

Have you whitelisted SBI for emails?

Checking that you're receiving the email is important. If SBI has an old email, you will not receive other important emails like the ICANN info email every year.

I hope this helps.

#1382092 by Kai from Fall Branch
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:45 pm
Thank you all your help. I checked, and SBI does have my current email address, and I have them Whitelisted.

After I wrote my previous note here in the forums I want back to the link and clicked it again, to have the report done. Got the same message that I'd be emailed when it was done. That was over 5 hours ago.

I'll contact support...

thanks again!

#1382236 by Cynthia from Foxboro
Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:36 pm

I'm confused about something. It appears you are saying we can't have any link on our site that does not have an https. Is that correct? What about affiliate links and links to references that do not have https? We can't control what other people do. Do they need to be https?

Also, I am concerned about traffic loss. Changing a site from http to https is essentially the equivalent of changing the url of every page on your site. It's like getting a whole new domain. I assume you will be implementing redirects, but still there is usually traffic loss with redirects. Also, what about link juice? My understanding is that redirects do not contain the same amount of link juice. So all backlinks to our site will not be a strong as before? If you do a goolge search on "traffic loss with changing to https" you will find many horror stories of people losing traffic and income. Are we just supposed to assume we are going to lose traffic and business and there's nothing to be done about it? And if we don't make the change, we're going to lose traffic and business as well.

It's so getting so complicated to maintain a simple site anymore it's discouraging.

Thank you.
#1382311 by Debs from SiteSell
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:59 am
Hi Cynthia,

Yes, it is frustrating when Google decides to change the game for everyone.

Help Elf posted in the first post in this thread answers that may help you also.

You don't have to switch to https if you don't want to. Yes you might lose traffic either way. Yes, all of your outbound links are best if the other sites landing page is changed to go to an HTTPS page or the warning about your page not being fully secure will appear. This includes affiliate links too. Some of the more common outbounds we know about will be changed for you.

We are implementing HTTPS with 301 redirects to minimize traffic loss. Inbound link juice shouldn't be affected permanently, that’s why the 301 redirects will be done for you too. However you could contact the sites linking to you to change their page to HTTPS, but you don't have to. It may take Google a little time to catchup on these.

I'll work on adding links in the original post in this thread to H.E.'s posts offering clarification now that the thread is so long.

All my best,

#1382368 by Scott from
Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:21 pm
Thanks everyone for all your information! :wink:

I've spent the last few spare hours reading through all the threads about this HTTPS thing.

My sight is young and doesn't need much changing except inbound links. We realize that lots of you have numerous, big, sprawling sights. That being said...

This is what Nimble & I've concluded...

Seems to us that it's a trade-off:

1. If you don't change to https you'll loose traffic ($).

2. If you do change to https... you'll loose traffic ($) due to, for example... inbound links that drop you because you asked them to change to https., etc. Couple other examples...

A. You'll loose traffic ($) because you're spending tons of time and energy fixing what's not really broken.

B. Once you're done fixing (will you ever get done???)... it'll be a constant monitoring process and no fun everytime that pretty little padlock looses it's green color and you (I would) go nuts because you swore it was green yesterday!

I could go on and on and I'm darn sure tons of SBI'ers disagree.

However... I completely understand Ken's wait & see approach :!:

And... believe me... I'm in the young stages (site 9 months old) so I'm not impacted like the biggies.

Just our two cents worth! :|

Arf! Scott& Nimble.

P.S... here's a pic of our soon-to-be Header Image... what do you think? Susan of [Domain Private] saw it and convinced us it's the one. Thanks Susan :!:
Nimble Loves Her Sweet Potato Treats!.JPG
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#1382372 by Eric from The Grey Havens
Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:43 pm
Not sure about a couple of points mentioned.

I have a website (no longer hosted with SBI) which I have converted to HTTPS. I have added some code to the .htaccess file which ensures anyone who visits via the old http:// etc. will get the https version. I don't understand the code, it was suggested by the hosting company. Seems to work fine, so all the old links in from outside are still valid.

My understanding of the green padlock is it's a better(?) implementation of https. And costs a lot more as well, in the region of $200 plus. Perhaps an expert could comment?

#1382388 by Will from Los Ojos
Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:24 pm
Cynthia from Foxboro wrote:Hello,

I'm confused about something. It appears you are saying we can't have any link on our site that does not have an https. Is that correct? What about affiliate links and links to references that do not have https? We can't control what other people do. Do they need to be https?

Hi Cynthia,

If you write a simple text link onto your https page, say one in a paragraph linking out to another site, it makes no difference if it is http or https. Your visitor is leaving your site for another destination. No warning sign will flag up.

You can write < a href="[Domain Private]/> Anguilla</a> and the browser will not complain. Or you can link out to a https site, and the browser will not complain.

But, sometimes, when you build an affiliate link, they are not just simple links out. Instead, they are complex links that download images and scripts to build up the whole "affiliate link package." If these affiliates are downloading http images or http scripts onto your https page in order to make the "link package", then the browser will complain.

It will download the http images, and will flag the site as "Not Secure".

It won't download the https scripts at all.

The difference is in the first case, the visitor is leaving you. They just connect to another site. No information is flowing between the SBI server and the visitor's browser.

In the second, the visitor is downloading the insecure items into the browser so that it can build the "affiliate link package". It doesn't matter if the link in the "package" gets clicked or not. Just building the "package" is enough to be flagged up as Not Secure.

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