Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:25 pm
If you wish to debate a certain post's points, please take time to write a reply that documents your position well. The best way to show an understanding of a subject and its issues is by building a well- researched, factual post.
Let's demonstrate how by using two excerpts from a forum discussion between Ken and an SBIer about the social network So.cl (http://www.so.cl) and Google Plus (Search Plus Your World - SPYW)...
Quote #1 from an SBIer:
"G+ is a new product and lots of improvements still have /and will be made, but fighting the evolution on the way the internet is used seems like a waste of time in my opinion. I happen to like the way Google integrates all it's different products into one, especially since all their popular products are of extraordinary quality."
"1) "G+ is a new product" -- FACT and TRUE. But the discussion is actually about how Google has integrated G+ and business pages into search in the form of SPYW.
2) "lots of improvements still have /and will be made" -- OPINION and likely will turn out to be FACT. Hopefully, part of that improvement will be a return to Google's core values and cessation of monopoly abuse (details in our posts).
3) "fighting the evolution on the way the internet is used seems like a waste of time in my opinion." -- OPINION, but we are not trying to change how the Net is used, so it frames an irrelevant issue.
Social activism, both offline and on, has a long and honored history of changing the future by stopping wrong actions by much more powerful entities. Two quick examples...
Offline, consider "civil right" and online consider "SOPA" (Stop Online Piracy Act)."
Quote #2 from the same SBIer:
"I happen to like the way Google integrates all it's different products into one, especially since all their popular products are of extraordinary quality."
"That's your personal opinion and you're entitled to it. I agreed with you, right up until the introduction of SPYW, even though it had already earned Google some anti-trust attention.
Google's inclusion of G+ into Search has accelerated and intensified due to G+'s integration into search. They had to know that would happen, but risked it anyway.
Many people liked the way IE was bundled into their Windows OS (which was also a monopoly). The strategy worked well, propelling Microsoft into near-total browser dominance. Since that forced-bundling was dropped due to anti-trust, use of Microsoft's inferior browser has steadily been eroded.
IE was fine. Folks "liked" it, as you like what Google is doing. But once MS was forced to un-bundle the browser, its market share has dropped steadily.
And that's the point..
Monopolies use their reach (in an area they control) in anti- competitive ways to gain control in other areas. They COUNT on their customers feeling the way you do to exclude superior alternatives.
THAT is what anti-trust legislation is all about."
So how do you build your case when debating points of view? Follow these 2 simple guidelines:
1) Recognize the difference between opinion and fact.
2) Take the required time to build a your position based on fact and research.
These guidelines, of course are not a "must." You can still make "yes it is" and "no it isn't" posts.
But as we mentioned right at the beginning...
It's through well-thought-out discussions backed by fact that we as a community learn and move ahead together.