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#1381385 by Diane Marie from InformedContractors.com
Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:47 pm
Hi All!

My son and I are moving to Puerto Vallarta from Washington state on October 4. That's when we land.

We'll be in roughly the Aramara area, kind of across where the cruise ships come in I guess?

At any rate, I'm wondering if I can hook up with some SBI'ers down there?

I have an expat group that I'm tied in with but they're all seniors (nothing wrong with that, I'm closer than I am further away from that distinction) :wink: and they don't have "kids" my son's age 23 almost 24.

He has high functioning autism and loves to play Magic (a card game) and he's a gamer but he needs to work on having a new gaming computer built when he gets down there.

He doesn't work so he'll be doing things for me on my website until we get a business going that we're considering for him, based on a need down there. :D .

Is there anyone down there that would be interested in meeting and having new friendships with a 23/24 year old young man and his semi-close-to-senior (54) mom/SBI'er?

Thank you so much!
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#1381422 by A J from Somewhere Hot
Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:02 am
While I'm nowhere near your area, I just wanted to day all the best with your move. I hope this is going to be the right move for you, and have my fingers crossed that it all goes well for you and your boy :-)

Cheers, AJ
#1381648 by Diane Marie from InformedContractors.com
Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:07 pm
Oh AJ, thank you so much!

We're so excited!! Watch for lots of pictures - and maybe a new website!!

I sure hope there are some SBI'ers down there...

HAVE a wonderful day! :D
#1386375 by Diane Marie from InformedContractors.com
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:50 pm

It is so difficult down here, the Internet is soooooo bad that it alone will probably send me back to the US.

Probably explains why there aren't any SBI'ers here... :?

Thank you,
#1386398 by Jill from Westbury
Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:43 pm

Sorry to hear about you problems with the internet. My fiance and I have been traveling for a few years and we finally came back to the US for that very reason. We had so many issues with the internet. Our last stop was in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico and we had the same problem. We thought about heading over to Puerto Vallarta, but saw that the internet is quite slow there too. Mexico has super high speed internet in its commerce centers, but not in many of its fun travel destinations.

Keep us posted and sorry you are frustrated!

#1386416 by A J from Somewhere Hot
Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:14 am
Hi Diane
As you probably know, I spent a lot of time in Fiji, back when I owned my Fiji travel site. One of the many disadvantages of a "3rd world" country is the internet. They don't consider themselves 3rd world, but once you get out of the resorts and tourist areas, it definitely is. I have stayed in many places there where there is no power connected to the houses, cooking is over an open fire outside, and water is carted by hand from the river. Cultivating the farmland is done with oxen and horses or by hand, no tractors.

A slow connection speed here in Australia is about 20mb on the speed testing. I know as a general rule of thumb, if I want to download a 60mb file, it will take about a minute, or maybe a bit less. In Fiji, I would be lucky to get to something like .8 (that's point 8!) using 3g network. You might do a bit better on the landline services, but they were very patchy, sometimes they were OK, other times ridiculously slow (as in, click for a new webpage on the laptop, and go make a cup of tea while it loaded). The fastest I ever saw was 8mb (on somebody elses connection)... watching a video on youtube was frustrating, and as for actually uploading a video, well, forget it.

I was talking with Sandra, who bought my Fiji site, and now has a site about Cuba. She tells me the internet in Fiji was a million times better than what she got in Cuba! I think she might be somewhere in Mexico at the moment, as depending on where you are there, the speed is so much better!

So yeah, in some places, internet can be a real PITA. I checked a few websites that discussed the internet speed in P.V, seems it's pretty bad! Lots of people just can't get a decent speed or reliable connection. Though from what I read, it depends where you are, some places have fibre (so decent speeds) and other places don't (so bad connections).

Maybe what you need to do is find out if you are in a good or bad area, perhaps some expat facebook groups that could help? Another option to look at, is if the cell 3 or 4g is workable? If so, then a pocket wifi might be faster for you than a broadband connection, but probably more expensive per GB. That is what I used in Fiji, I found it was good enough for me to at least do my work, though nothing like the speed I was used to.

I think in places like the US and here in Australia, we take fast internet for granted, and when we go somewhere like P.V then it's just something we have to learn to adapt to. I know for me in Fiji, that meant watching music videos on youtube were replaced with music on my laptop, facebook wasn't left open all day, I didn't run 20 open tabs on my browsers like I do here, and I would only connect when I needed to. Files to be uploaded would be saved up and I would do them at maybe 5am when there wasn't too many users chewing up the internet.

Anyway, hope you manage to find some workable solution :-)
Cheers, AJ
#1386891 by Diane Marie from InformedContractors.com
Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:14 am
Hi All!

Thank you for all of the suggestions and support. :D

I'm still struggling with this but I've been engulfed in living without running water for a week. Oh joy... :lol:

AJ, I was wondering if you might be able to answer a question (or two...) for me about internet speeds?

I have 3.0 mbps download and .30 upload.

I'm sure, based on the fact that I struggle to get to, and work with, websites (such as SBI!, MailChimp, etc.) that my upload speed is nowhere near what it needs to be in order for me to work online.

What upload speed is workable for working online (or preferably better than "workable")?

And then if you happen to know the answer to this next question, what's good for online gaming? My son does online gaming but hasn't been able to for two months now.

Thank you again everyone!
#1387469 by A J from Somewhere Hot
Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:45 pm
I have 3.0 mbps download and .30 upload.

My net is running slow tonight, but I did a check and have 15mb download and 1 upload.

The download speed is the most important for general work on the internet, that's how fast you receive data. The upload speed is always much slower, thats why it can seem to take forever to upload a video to you tube!

For general stuff on the internet, you can get by with 3.0 mb. I managed on half that speed in Fiji! Just have to be aware its slow, dont be impatient, and plan ahead. But as for online gaming, forget it. Just not going to happen at that speed. Even if he makes a connection (doubtful) it will frustrate him and everyone he plays with... the action will be over and he will be out of the game before he even knows there is something going on. With online games, those with faster connection will always win as they get the data first. I would think at least 12mb at a min, but up around 20 for a decent experience.

Sorry, not what your boy wanted to hear eh :-(

But think back 15 years when we used to have a 56k dial up... and some of us only had 28k. That was painfully slow, but we managed, we just accepted that things might take a while (like 20min to download a 3mb song!!).

Cheers, AJ
#1387473 by Diane Marie from InformedContractors.com
Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:11 pm
Thank you AJ!

We're actually moving to a condo (provided things don't fall apart today...) and we're expecting better speeds.

I'm hoping that I can kick it up to higher speeds, they have it available, it just depends on the area you're in.

The frustrating thing about the 3.0 download is that so many things time out.

Even when trying to post here sometimes it times out before it posts...

What I'm thinking now is that it can't be any worse where we're going. :D

Not what my boy wanted to hear but also not what I wanted to hear... :wink: I'm his sounding board from sun-up until bedtime because he doesn't have anyone else to talk to (and with his Autism it's impossible to get him to quit talking about Yu-Gi-Oh, Magic the Card Game, and Runescape).

That makes it doubly hard. No matter how much I try to soften a blow of "honey I'm working you can't talk to me right now" he still gets upset and hurt.

But at any rate, hopefully by tomorrow night things will be better.

If it doesn't though, AJ are you able to tell me how to get around the timing out when trying to do things online?

Some suggest "Starbucks" or other open wi-fi but I have access on my computer to thousands of credit card numbers. I don't have the numbers on my computer, just access to my Yahoo store where the cc numbers are.

And you're saying that it doesn't matter that it's 3.0 because I should be able to work my sites anyway with 3.0 download?

It's that darn timing out that keeps happening...

Thank you again AJ!!
#1387474 by A J from Somewhere Hot
Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:36 pm
What you could do, is try different times of the day or night. I found in Fiji that if I did the bulk of my work 2am thru to 5am, the speed was OK-ish. If I tried to work when the majority of people were online, it was almost impossible.

So for me, weekends were the worst, and weekends in the evenings was so slow I wouldn't bother. It might be the same for you, some days or times of days might be better than others. Maybe he will have to play games at 4am.

Cheers, AJ
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